Let's start with Ashleigh Banfield. I've been on her show earlier this year, and she lied about reoffense rates, claiming the US Dept. of Justice stated reoffense rates of up to 37%. We all know that's a lie, but on her 9/7/17 show, she really took her stupidity to a whole other level. She lied about recidivism rates, lied about those post-Katrina rapes which were debunked by numerous sources, and even erroneously claimed the National Sexual Violence Resource Center is a government agency. I wasn't really given an opportunity to debunk her lies, as she likes to interrupt people when she disagrees, but her myth-spewing alone is Shiitake-worthy enough.
Ashleigh Banfield is no stranger to making outrageous statements and has a reputation for not letting the facts get in the way of expressing her warped viewpoint. She was slammed as an "unapologetic racist" for exclaiming she was shocked the movie "Straight Outta Compton" didn't result in increased violence.Even Brietbart doesn't like her for things like staging a fake outburst to claim Paul Ryan is "soft on rape" for having pro-life views. Oh, and then she had to backpedal on the "gay is voluntary" thing. Saying stupid things is what keeps this woman employed.
Speaking of racists, she had a man some of you may not know but need to know-- Butler Co OH Sheriff Richard K Jones. Also not a stranger to controversy; he's mostly know as being of the same ilk as Sheriff Joe Arpaio, declaring "war in illegals" that got him sued by a legal immigrant. He suggested bombing Mexico Cartels with "The Mother of All Bombs" (MOAB, the strongest non-nuclear bomb). This year, he's already made headlines for ordering his officers not to use Narcan to resuscitate overdose victims and wants to ban disguises to stop protesters (that cheesy Yosemite Sam mustache should count as a disguise but I digress). However, he's most known for getting absolutely destroyed in an in-person interview with "The Daily Show" comedian Al Madrigal in 2014.
I am not shocked, then, when this idiot not only claimed registered citizens are banned from homeless shelters (a statement that is completely false), he also claims registered citizens have a 76% reoffense rate, which is even worse than AshLIEgh Banfield's 37% claims.
Both of these nitwits are Shiitake-worthy, obviously. So enjoy today's doubleheader.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1709/07/ptab.01.html
GRADY JUDD, SHERIFF, POLK COUNTY SHERIFF`S OFFICE: Never before did I think that we`d be beat up for giving people a warning and keeping people safe.
But that`s OK, if you`re a sexual predator and a sexual offender, we`re not going to let you sleep next to any 5 or 6 or 7-year-old babies.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BANFIELD: Sheriff Richard Jones is with the Butler County Sheriff`s Office. He joins me from Hamilton, Ohio. And Sheriff Jones, as I read it, you are
in a lockstep with Sheriff Grady Judd on this, aren`t you?
RICHARD JONES, SHERIFF, BUTLER COUNTY SHERIFF`S OFFICE: That`s absolutely correct.
BANFIELD: So tell me, because I can see both sides. I honestly can. I don`t want a sex offender sleeping next to me if I`m in a shelter or my kids, but sex offenders are people, too, and they deserve to live and not be battered by a storm. So how do you marry those two problems?
JONES: You don`t. He`s gave them five days to get out of town, and he`s gave them to find a place of shelter with family members. Here in Ohio, we don`t allow in our homeless shelters, if you`re a sexual predator, you can`t come to a homeless shelter. If the weather is good, you can`t come to the homeless shelter, let alone if the weather is bad. And if you have any violence in your history, you can`t come either. He`s doing exactly what he`s supposed to do. He`s a very popular sheriff. If the ACLU doesn`t like it, it`s too bad. I think he was absolutely correct. When you say that the ACLU has an issue with that, they can go ahead and take them home with them. We don`t want them in our shelters, and he doesn`t want them in there.
BANFIELD: And I can see where the passions flare. I do have this question, though. You know, a lot of times -- and I`ve never had an outstanding warrant, so I`m happy about that, but a lot of times, as I understand it, it`s not clear what you`re warrant is for. So, the guy beside me might be a sex offender and then the other guy beside me may have two outstanding traffic tickets, and he`s the guy who is maybe too afraid to the come to the shelter with his family because he might end up being pulled away from them at his families` greatest need, the time in need. Does that make sense to you? Do you understand where that sort of throws a wrench into all of this?
JONES: I understand it. No jail in country will put you in jail for a traffic ticket, believe me. But it`s that sheriff`s responsibility to make sure that he is responsible for those families that are coming there. It`s his responsibility to make sure it`s safe. And when you bring these people in, that`s his responsibility, and he`s doing nothing any different than what we do here in Ohio --
BANFIELD: I get it. And again, I respect that. But I guess what I`m trying to figure out is this is sort of chaos. And they can`t delineate between the bad guy, the dangerous, violent offender and the guy with the tickets right there at the shelter, so they all got to go. So you see what I mean?
JONES: Right.
BANFIELD: They`re all going to get swept in together into the jail and the dad is going to have to leave his two kids and his wife at a time when he`s terrified for them and they`re terrified to lose him.
JONES: But the jail can determine which ones, which ones, what crime they have, what are the warrants for. The sheriff --
BANFIELD: The jail can, but the shelter can`t. And at this point -- we`re going back and forth, you know?
JONES: He`s still responsible for everybody else in that shelter. If you look at the history when they`ve had these things before, these people are attracted to these areas. You can`t do it. It`s the safety of the majority. It`s no different than having a life boat with only room for 10 people in it. You can`t put 20 people in the lifeboat.
BANFIELD: Yes. Let me bring in Derek Logue if I can. He is a convicted sex offender, admittedly so. He is also the founder of oncefallen.com. He joins me from Cincinnati tonight. Thanks for being here, Derek. I can only imagine you have a pretty strong opinion about this. If a hurricane were headed towards Cincinnati, you`d be one of those people, told you`re not welcome in that shelter.
DEREK LOGUE, CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER: Well, I would like to think that the city of Cincinnati would treat their citizens a little better than Hamilton, Ohio does or Polk County for that matter. Not every sheriff in America behaves like them. They should be ashamed of their opinions and their behavior. That`s just the way I feel about it.
I`ve been working with people across the country for many years now. This is an issue that came up. I talked with people from Louisiana and Florida. A lot of times, they`ve been given the choice between going to jail and riding out the storm, and a lot of people have chosen riding out the storm. I think if I were in their shoes, I will do the same thing.
BANFIELD: Can I ask you something? I`ve interviewed loads of sex offenders before. Almost all of them, many of them say that it is an illness, that it is not something that you can cure. You have to fight like alcoholism. So if I have my children beside me, is the sheriff not protecting my children and me by saying that a sex offender could be dangerous, in fact, was dangerous --
LOGUE: First of all --
BANFIELD: -- at the super dome. There were dozens of rapes reported at the super dome after hurricane Katrina.
LOGUE: Yes.
BANFIELD: Am I not being protected more than --
LOGUE: None of those reports have been -- none of those have been confirmed. Those are all bunch of rumors, just like the rumors of roving gangs of thugs after Katrina. You know, most of it --
BANFIELD: There were shootings, there were lootings.
LOGUE: -- most of it was just paranoid --
BANFIELD: Well, that`s not true. I`m not going to take issue with you on that because --
LOGUE: There was no --
BANFIELD: -- hold on. There were dozens of rapes reported in the aftermath of Katrina.
LOGUE: Well, I will take issue with the fact --
(CROSSTALK)
BANFIELD: You got to let me --
(CROSSTALK)
LOGUE: You`re not going to let me tell you where you`re wrong.
BANFIELD: You just said there were no rapes. They were unfounded. And I`m going to tell you where they`re founded.
LOGUE: You said, yes, they are unfounded. Yes, they are unfounded.
BANFIELD: One-third of the rapes happened at evacuation shelters after Rita and Katrina, according to National Sexual Violence Resource Center, which is government agency --
LOGUE: You`re completely wrong on that.
BANFIELD: It is not only vetted by the government, it is funded by the government.
LOGUE: You`re very wrong on that.
BANFIELD: The government`s just lying about those rapes that happened.
LOGUE: Once again, yes, you`re completely lying about how everybody on the registry is incurable and that they can`t control themselves. Very few people --
BANFIELD: I said I have been told that by people like you. I`m not making a judgment. I`m not in your head. I`m just -- listen, I`m telling you, I`ve had interviews with sex offenders.
LOGUE: You are going to sit here and try to tell people that everybody that is on the registry is an incurable monster and that when they go to a shelter, they are not going to be able to control themselves.
BANFIELD: You can put your language the way you want it. Sheriff Jones, jump on in.
JONES: Yes. Yes, basically what you`ve got here is he`s not telling the truth. Basically what you have is 76 percent of --
LOGUE: Give me a break.
JONES: -- sexual predators (INAUDIBLE), which means they come back to the system. There is --
LOGUE: What a load of hogwash. Where do you get your numbers from? Where do you get your numbers from? That`s what I would like to know. Every time I come on this show, you guys say the same things. And every time I try to say something about it, you try --
BANFIELD: You know, Derek, you walk all over everybody when they try to answer your question. That`s the problem. You ask where we get the numbers
from, and when we begin to tell you, you walk over and you call it hogwash.
LOGUE: You bring me on the show and you try to bully me. I come on the show.
BANFIELD: Oh, for God`s god`s sake, it`s not bullying.
LOGUE: It is not true. It is completely bogus.
BANFIELD: No, you can`t go on a show and preach.
LOGUE: It`s completely bogus.
JONES: He`s not going to any shelters in Polk County and you won`t go to any one in Butler County.
LOGUE: You don`t want to hear the truth. Simple as that.
BANFIELD: Here`s the problem. Derek, there`s only one audio line out. And not all three voices can be on it. I`m flat out of time. I appreciate both
of you and both of your opinions count. They matter. I appreciate the discussion.
JONES: Yes, ma`am.
BANFIELD: Derek, look forward to having you again. Sheriff, look forward to having you again, too, sir. Thank you.
JONES: Thank you, ma`am.
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